Irish · Dublin & Westmeath
Irish search from the GEDCOM
What the Ancestry GEDCOM actually says for Dowling / Curry / Kelly, and the Irish searches those facts unlock. Martin Dowling is a merge — not used as a source.
Started 14 Sep 2026 from gedcom/Maiale_Fellman_Family_Tree.ged (Ancestry export 25 Jun 2026). This is the search list, not a finished Irish pedigree. Family page: Dowling–Curry–Kelly.
Use irishgenealogy.ie first. No account. Dublin church baptisms and Irish civil deaths from 1864 are there. Ancestry / FindMyPast / RootsIreland can wait until a free search misses. How-to is below.
Direct line the GEDCOM claims (US-side is the solid bit)
Margaret Mary Dowling (29 Mar 1907 – 18 Jan 1992, NY) ← John Joseph Dowling (b. 27 Sep 1879, 329 W. 26th St., NYC – d. 8 Apr 1970, Flushing) × Anna Loretta Curry (5 Nov 1883, Manhattan – 25 Aug 1957, Flushing), m. 7 Jan 1900, Kings ← GEDCOM father of John Joseph: Martin Dowling × Ellen, m. 29 Jan 1869, Manhattan
That 1869 Manhattan marriage is the first US record to trust for “who is John Joseph’s father.” Do not jump from John Joseph to William until Martin is unmerged.
William Dowling — GEDCOM facts to search (Dublin)
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| Field | GEDCOM | Now |
|---|---|---|
| Birth | 1822, Dublin | still year-only; baptism is the original |
| Baptism | 26 Dec 1822, Dublin | 🟢 image opened: St Mary’s (Pro-Cathedral), Dublin city. Keep this row. |
| Second baptism | 22 Jun 1855, Dublin | 🟡 likely a merge or an adult event — do not treat as a second birth |
| Arrival | 25 Jul 1848, New York | passenger list |
| Military | 23 Aug 1864 | same date as the return — probably discharge, not a second fact |
| Departure | 23 Aug 1864, back to Dublin | reverse migrant |
| Residence | Nurnys Court | 🟢 on the baptism image (keep the register spelling) |
| Death | 7 Aug 1865, Dublin South | 🟡 burial index says 23 Jul 1865, age 44, South Dublin Union. Prefer the index until the civil image. |
| Burial | St. James, Dublin | 🟢 on the burial index |
| Parents | Petr Dowling × Anne Dowling | 🟢 Petr confirmed. 🔴 Anne is wrong — the image names Marcella Dowling. |
| Spouses in file | Mary Anne Freeman ~1840; Esther Connolly 8 Jan 1854, Ireland; Ellen | 🟡 more than one William may be glued here |
Children attached under William in the file include John Henry (Dublin ~1850 – Carteret NJ 1898), Martin, Joseph, Jane (Dublin 1846 – West Derby 1930). Treat as leads, not siblings, until Martin is split.
Kelly — Castletown Delvin, Westmeath
| Person | GEDCOM |
|---|---|
| Edward Kelly | b. 1800, Castletown Delvin; d. Westmeath (stayed) |
| Elizabeth Murray | b. 1804, Castletown Delvin; d. 4 Sep 1851, Castletown Delvin |
| Son Andrew Kelly | b. 4 Apr 1832, Westmeath; d. 14 May 1901, Manhattan; arrived 1860 |
| Further back | Patrick Kelly (4GG) ~1774 Westmeath, d. 1864 Athlone; Laurence Kelly (5GG) b. 1751 — ⚪ hint-tree, last |
Andrew × Anne Kelley, m. 1856 Manhattan. Daughter Elizabeth Esther Kelly (9 Jun 1861 – 5 Aug 1940) m. James Michael Curry 5 Feb 1898 → Anna Loretta Curry.
Curry — do not use Hannah Gilroy as Andrew’s wife
GEDCOM still has James Curry (b. 1800 Cork – d. Dec 1884 Dublin South) × Hannah Gilroy (1800–1881 Jersey City) as parents of Andrew Curry (Nov 1830 Ireland – 8 Jun 1911 Jersey City). That pairing is the 29-year age gap already flagged. Andrew’s US marriage is Ann E Ward, 1851 NY.
James Curry d. Dec 1884 Dublin South is a searchable Irish civil death (civil registration is on by 1864). Cork 1800 birth is church-only.
Which site (you are not logged into anything)
Do not start with Ancestry. The Irish originals for William and the 1865 death are on a free government site.
| Site | Cost | Use it for |
|---|---|---|
| irishgenealogy.ie | Free, no login | William: Dublin baptism 1822 + civil death 1865. James Curry: civil death Dec 1884 Dublin South. This is the one to use today. |
| registers.nli.ie | Free, no login | Kelly @ Delvin — unindexed Catholic register images (Westmeath is not on irishgenealogy.ie church). Browse, don’t search. |
| askaboutireland.ie Griffith’s | Free | Edward Kelly / Murray in Castletown Delvin ~1850s |
| FamilySearch | Free account | NYC 1869 Martin×Ellen marriage; Dublin workhouse images if they load |
| FindMyPast | Paid | South Dublin Union admission books (the 1864–65 workhouse stay) — later |
| RootsIreland | Paid | Indexed Westmeath baptisms if NLI browse fails |
| Ancestry | Paid | US tree + hints. Not the Irish originals. |
irishgenealogy.ie covers Dublin church + all-Ireland civil from 1864. It does not index Westmeath Catholic baptisms. That is why Kelly is NLI, not the same search box.
How to use irishgenealogy.ie — William’s death (easier hit)
Civil registration starts 1864. The burial index gives 23 Jul 1865 (age 44, South Dublin Union). The GEDCOM’s 7 Aug 1865 is the date to beat, not the date to require.
- Open irishgenealogy.ie.
- Click Civil Records (not Church Records).
- Fill:
- Name: William Dowling (exact is fine; if zero hits, try Dolan / Dowlin).
- Event type: Death.
- Year: 1865, or range 1865–1866.
- SR District / Reg. Area: start with Dublin South. If empty, clear the district and search Dublin only.
- Open every William of age ~40–50. Burial index age is 44.
- Click the PDF / image. Read: exact date, age, occupation, workhouse or South Dublin Union, informant, cause, burial note if any.
- Screenshot the index row and the certificate. That is the proof. Prefer that date over both 23 Jul and 7 Aug.
If the district filter hides him: search Deaths, 1865, name only, then sort by district.
How to use irishgenealogy.ie — William’s baptism
- Same site → Church Records (separate from Civil).
- Name: William Dowling.
- Year range: 1822 to 1823.
- Location: Dublin (city). If the form wants a parish, try St James first (GEDCOM burial is St James), then leave parish blank.
- You want 26 Dec 1822, parish St Mary’s / Pro-Cathedral. Parents on the image are Petr × Marcella, residence Nurnys Court. That row is already opened. A Petr × Anne row is the wrong William, or the GEDCOM placeholder leaking into an index.
- Next church hunt: Marcella Dowling as mother in the same parish in the 1810s–30s (siblings), then Petr × Marcella marriage. Sponsors on William’s entry were not legible.
A second baptism 22 Jun 1855 on the same GEDCOM person is probably junk or an adult event. If you find a William baptised that day, it is not proof of a second birth.
How to use NLI for the Kellys (no search box)
- Open registers.nli.ie.
- Diocese Meath → parish Delvin (Castletown Delvin).
- Open Baptisms around 1832 for Andrew Kelly, parents Edward Kelly and Elizabeth Murray.
- Open Burials / deaths around 4 Sep 1851 for Elizabeth Murray / Kelly.
- This is page-by-page. Invert colors if the ink is faded, same as Antenati.
Griffith’s (after or in parallel): county Westmeath, parish Castletown Delvin / Delvin, occupier Kelly.
Order once the how-to is clear
- Civil death 1865 on irishgenealogy.ie (free) — settle 23 Jul vs 7 Aug from the certificate.
- 🟢 Church baptism 1822 is done: Pro-Cathedral, Petr × Marcella, Nurnys Court.
- Marcella as mother in the same register (siblings), then Petr × Marcella marriage.
- Griffith’s + NLI Delvin for the Kellys.
- Paid FindMyPast workhouse books only if the 1865 death image is thin.
- NYC Martin × Ellen 29 Jan 1869 — names Martin’s parents; that splits the merge.
Guardrails from the file itself
- Martin Dowling: four INDI records (blank dates, Mar 1848 Ireland d. 1890 Brooklyn, abt 1845 Ireland d. abt 1890). F12 dumps extra children (Hugh in Ontario, Sharon, etc.) onto John Joseph’s household. Ignore Martin as a single person until the 1869 marriage cert.
- Two baptisms on William (1822 and 1855) = merge smell.
- 🔴 Anne Dowling is not William’s mother. The Pro-Cathedral image names Marcella. Drop Anne from this line.
FamilySearch collection that matches the death: Ireland, Dublin, Workhouses Admission and Discharge Registers, 1840–1921 (CID 4496114) — needs a browser that is not blocked from this host.
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